Dȳñes

High Valyrian

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Etymology

From an invisible proto-language.
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Pronunciation

(Classical) IPA^(key): /ˈdyːɲes/

Noun

dȳñes (fourth declension solar, nominative plural dȳñesse)

1. animal, beast

   Dȳñer raqiror issa.

   All animals are friends.

Inflection

	Singular	Plural	Paucal	Collective
Nominative	dȳñes	dȳñesse	dȳñin	dȳñer
Accusative	dȳñī	dȳñī	dȳñini	dȳñeri
Genitive	dȳño	dȳñoti	dȳñino	dȳñero
Dative	dȳñot		dȳñinte	dȳñerte
Locative	dȳñē		dȳñinne	dȳñerre
Instrumental	dȳñose	dȳñossi	dȳñisse	dȳñerze
Comitative	dȳñome	dȳñommi	dȳñimme	dȳñerme
Vocative	dȳñys	dȳñesses	dȳñisse	dȳñerze

Derived Terms

• dȳñenka

 

Descendants

• Astapori Valyrian: dyni

Creation and Usage Notes

You know, when I create a word, I like to feel like I've come at it from every possible angle at the time I coin it. I may discover later that I made a mistake, or decide that I should have done something differently, but so long as I did my best with it at that moment, I accept it and move in. This word, though... Naturally, when one is doing translation under the gun (a permanent state when working on a television show), there's pressure to finish, whether you've hit on the perfect word or not. I created this word for some damn translation—I can't remember which at this point. (Oh. Ha. I needed it for Astapori Valyrian. How about that...) No matter how much I fussed with it, I never once could get settled with this word. I'm still not settled. I don't like it, but I don't quite hate it. And even if the High Valyrian form of the word never ended up in the show, it's now wound up in some essay on High Valyrian names for animals in the Universe of Ice and Fire, so it's kind of stuck. The issues are numerous. About the only thing I got right with this thing is the declension class. It's good it ends with -es (like zaldrīzes). Aside from that, I'm not sure the word should exist at all. As I have it, this is some basic term for "animal". As you may know, George R. R. Martin intended High Valyrian to be the Latin of his universe, so it's impossible to coin a word for "animal" without thinking of how Latin came up with a word for "animal". The relationship between "animal", "animate", "animacy", "animus", etc. is no accident. An animal is, essentially, an animate thing—that which has been given life. The word derives from animus, which itself derives from an Indo-European word for "breath": the ability to breathe being connected with life. That's a damn etymology. What the hell is dȳñes? Nothing, as far as I can tell. Furthermore, the root is problematic. The long ȳ and the ñ are hopelessly pretentious—and unpleasant to pronounce. It's a weighty word to enjoy any kind of regular use—and, indeed, I almost never use it, so there's that. It's a word that looks unnecessarily gaudy and regal (in fact, it reminds one a bit of dārys and dārōñe). Naturally, these are my associations, rather than the one of a native Valyrian speaker, but that doesn't help me feel any better about it. Now that I look back and see this was done for an Astapori Valyrian word I have even less of an excuse. The word dȳñes could have meant just about anything in High Valyrian. It simply could have come to mean "beast" in Astapori Valyrian. Instead I took the lazy way out because I wanted my Astapori word so I could move on with the translation. Anyway, this is why I remain unsettled with this word. Every time I look at it I'm disgusted with myself. It's an unpleasant memory I don't wish to revisit. Dȳñes... What a stupid sounding word... Ugh. -David J. Peterson 03:06, 17 May 2020 (PDT)