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{{djpnotes|quote=Rather famously, Daenerys uses the word [[drakarys]] (spelled "dracarys" in the books) to get her dragons to breathe fire. This word is translated as "dragonfire". I found it unfortunate that a word meaning "dragonfire" would have "drac-" in it—obviously related to the Ancient Greek root that gave us "dragon" in English and related words in the rest of the Indo-European languages. The reason I found it unfortunate is it seems like a rather wild coincidence that the word meaning "dragon" would look exactly like the word that means "dragon" in our world when our world has no connection to the world in the ''[[Song of Ice and Fire]]'' universe. It's either a one in a trillion coincidence or very lazy, and I didn't like that. As a result, I decided that [[drakarys]] would be a word for actual dragonfire, distinct from other words for "fire" like [[perzys]]. I based this idea off the existence of "wildfire" in the series. It's a type of fire that has very different physical properties from ordinary fire. I reasoned that dragonfire might represent a third distinct type of fire, so having a separate word for it didn't seem like a big deal. | {{djpnotes|quote=Rather famously, Daenerys uses the word ''[[drakarys]]'' (spelled "dracarys" in the books) to get her dragons to breathe fire. This word is translated as "dragonfire". I found it unfortunate that a word meaning "dragonfire" would have "drac-" in it—obviously related to the Ancient Greek root that gave us "dragon" in English and related words in the rest of the Indo-European languages. The reason I found it unfortunate is it seems like a rather wild coincidence that the word meaning "dragon" would look exactly like the word that means "dragon" in our world when our world has no connection to the world in the ''[[Song of Ice and Fire]]'' universe. It's either a one in a trillion coincidence or very lazy, and I didn't like that. As a result, I decided that ''[[drakarys]]'' would be a word for actual dragonfire, distinct from other words for "fire" like ''[[perzys]]''. I based this idea off the existence of "wildfire" in the series. It's a type of fire that has very different physical properties from ordinary fire. I reasoned that dragonfire might represent a third distinct type of fire, so having a separate word for it didn't seem like a big deal. | ||
That was my reasoning for having a new word for dragon unrelated in any way to the word [[drakarys]]. I do understand that some fans were upset by this. I accept the blame for it. I stand by my reasoning still, but I do understand. Perhaps if I'd ever had a discussion with [[George R. R. Martin]] on the subject I could've made my case and had him render his verdict, but this was between seasons 2 and 3, and his life was already quite different from what it had been before the series aired. While I had had discussions with him earlier, that was no longer going to be something I could count on. | That was my reasoning for having a new word for dragon unrelated in any way to the word ''[[drakarys]]''. I do understand that some fans were upset by this. I accept the blame for it. I stand by my reasoning still, but I do understand. Perhaps if I'd ever had a discussion with [[George R. R. Martin]] on the subject I could've made my case and had him render his verdict, but this was between seasons 2 and 3, and his life was already quite different from what it had been before the series aired. While I had had discussions with him earlier, that was no longer going to be something I could count on. | ||
The word went on to appear in one of the most famous—if not ''the'' most famous—conlang lines in the series, "A dragon is not a slave". As it happens, the syllabic structure of [[zaldrīzes]] really works well with the line: zal-DRĪ-zes buz-DA-ri IK-sos da-OR. I certainly don't regret it. I love the line, I love how it sounds, and even love the mistake Emilia Clarke made in pronouncing it. | The word went on to appear in one of the most famous—if not ''the'' most famous—conlang lines in the series, "A dragon is not a slave". As it happens, the syllabic structure of ''[[zaldrīzes]]'' really works well with the line: ''zal-DRĪ-zes buz-DA-ri IK-sos da-OR''. I certainly don't regret it. I love the line, I love how it sounds, and even love the mistake Emilia Clarke made in pronouncing it. | ||
Anyway, if you're still unhappy with [[zaldrīzes]], I invite you to try the line with another word—''drakys'' or ''drakes'' or something. Maybe if they do a reboot some day and decide to hire someone to do a different High Valyrian language they can do something along those lines and we can see how the original holds up. | Anyway, if you're still unhappy with ''[[zaldrīzes]]'', I invite you to try the line with another word—''drakys'' or ''drakes'' or something. Maybe if they do a reboot some day and decide to hire someone to do a different High Valyrian language they can do something along those lines and we can see how the original holds up. | ||
-''[[User:Djp|David J. Peterson]]'' 03:44, 17 June 2020 (PDT)}} | -''[[User:Djp|David J. Peterson]]'' 03:44, 17 June 2020 (PDT)}} | ||
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High Valyrian
Etymology
From zālare (“burning”) + rīza (“lizard”).
Pronunciation
(Classical) IPA(key): /zalˈdriːzes/
- Rhymes: -iːzes
Noun
zaldrīzes (fourth declension solar, nominative plural zaldrīzesse)
- dragon
- Zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor. (Phrasebook Entry)
- A dragon is not a slave.
- -Daenerys (Game of Thrones, Episode 304)
- A dragon is not a slave.
- Davido zaldrīzes aōhos zaldrīzose rōvyktys issa.
- David’s dragon is bigger than your dragon.
- Zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor. (Phrasebook Entry)
Inflection
Singular | Plural | Paucal | Collective | |
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Nominative | zaldrīzes | zaldrīzesse | zaldrīzin | zaldrīzer |
Accusative | zaldrīzī | zaldrīzī | zaldrīzini | zaldrīzeri |
Genitive | zaldrīzo | zaldrīzoti | zaldrīzino | zaldrīzero |
Dative | zaldrīzot | zaldrīzinte | zaldrīzerte | |
Locative | zaldrīzē | zaldrīzinne | zaldrīzerre | |
Instrumental | zaldrīzose | zaldrīzossi | zaldrīzisse | zaldrīzerze |
Comitative | zaldrīzome | zaldrīzommi | zaldrīzimme | zaldrīzerme |
Vocative | zaldrīzys | zaldrīzesses | zaldrīzisse | zaldrīzerze |
Descendants
See Also
Translations
Sense: mythical flying reptile (dragon) [edit] |
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Creation and Usage Notes
Rather famously, Daenerys uses the word drakarys (spelled "dracarys" in the books) to get her dragons to breathe fire. This word is translated as "dragonfire". I found it unfortunate that a word meaning "dragonfire" would have "drac-" in it—obviously related to the Ancient Greek root that gave us "dragon" in English and related words in the rest of the Indo-European languages. The reason I found it unfortunate is it seems like a rather wild coincidence that the word meaning "dragon" would look exactly like the word that means "dragon" in our world when our world has no connection to the world in the Song of Ice and Fire universe. It's either a one in a trillion coincidence or very lazy, and I didn't like that. As a result, I decided that drakarys would be a word for actual dragonfire, distinct from other words for "fire" like perzys. I based this idea off the existence of "wildfire" in the series. It's a type of fire that has very different physical properties from ordinary fire. I reasoned that dragonfire might represent a third distinct type of fire, so having a separate word for it didn't seem like a big deal.
That was my reasoning for having a new word for dragon unrelated in any way to the word drakarys. I do understand that some fans were upset by this. I accept the blame for it. I stand by my reasoning still, but I do understand. Perhaps if I'd ever had a discussion with George R. R. Martin on the subject I could've made my case and had him render his verdict, but this was between seasons 2 and 3, and his life was already quite different from what it had been before the series aired. While I had had discussions with him earlier, that was no longer going to be something I could count on. The word went on to appear in one of the most famous—if not the most famous—conlang lines in the series, "A dragon is not a slave". As it happens, the syllabic structure of zaldrīzes really works well with the line: zal-DRĪ-zes buz-DA-ri IK-sos da-OR. I certainly don't regret it. I love the line, I love how it sounds, and even love the mistake Emilia Clarke made in pronouncing it. Anyway, if you're still unhappy with zaldrīzes, I invite you to try the line with another word—drakys or drakes or something. Maybe if they do a reboot some day and decide to hire someone to do a different High Valyrian language they can do something along those lines and we can see how the original holds up. -David J. Peterson 03:44, 17 June 2020 (PDT) |
- High Valyrian compound terms
- High Valyrian terms with IPA pronunciation
- Rhymes:High Valyrian/iːzes
- High Valyrian lemmas
- High Valyrian nouns
- High Valyrian terms with quotations
- High Valyrian terms with quotations from Game of Thrones
- High Valyrian terms with usage examples
- High Valyrian solar nouns
- High Valyrian nouns of fourth declension
- Sense:Mythical flying reptile
- Hval:Dragons
- Hval:Fantasy
- Hval:Heraldic charges
- Hval:Mythological creatures
- Hval:Reptiles
- Hval:Animals
- High Valyrian terms with creation and usage notes
- High Valyrian 3-syllable words