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{{lexeme|Méníshè}}
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====Pronunciation====
====Pronunciation====
{{IPA|/dʒi˩-/|lang=meni}}
{{IPA|/dʒi˩-/|/dʒ-/|lang=meni}}


====Prefix====
====Prefix====
{{head|meni|prefix|fire class}}
{{head|meni|prefix|fire class}}


# occurs before consonant-initial roots (for vowel-initial roots, see [[j-]]); co-occurs most frequently with [[:Category:Méníshè fire class nouns|fire class nouns]]
# {{n-g|Co-occurs most frequently with [[:Category:Méníshè fire class nouns|fire class nouns]]. May surface as '''j-''' before vowels.}}


=====Derived Terms=====
=====Derived Terms=====
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{{head|meni|pronoun form|third person dependent, fire class}}
{{head|meni|pronoun form|third person dependent, fire class}}


# she/her, he/him, it, they/them; third person dependent personal pronoun form; occurs before consonant-initial roots (for vowel-initial roots, see [[j-]])
# she/her, he/him, it, they/them; third person dependent fire class pronoun; may surface as '''j-''' before vowels.


====Creation and Usage Notes====
====Creation and Usage Notes====

Revision as of 11:12, 19 August 2024

Méníshè

Etymology

From Proto-Méníshè *dih.

Pronunciation

IPA(key): /dʒi˩-/, /dʒ-/

Prefix

jì- (fire class)

  1. Co-occurs most frequently with fire class nouns. May surface as j- before vowels.
Derived Terms

Pronoun

jì- (third person dependent, fire class)

  1. she/her, he/him, it, they/them; third person dependent fire class pronoun; may surface as j- before vowels.

Creation and Usage Notes

We screwed this prefix up something fierce. Originally, there was perfect symmetry between this prefix and the water class prefix. It would be the coronal (i.e. dì-) before a consonant, and the palatal otherwise—just like it is with the water class. Unfortunately, we kind of forgot about that, and just made it jì- everywhere. Then we screwed it up even worse, because it was supposed to be the low tone vowel before consonants, and a toneless vowel before other vowels. Instead, we made the vowel-initial prefix j-. That's certainly something a language would do, but it wasn't what we intended. In our defense, we were working with an extraordinarily abbreviated timeline. Anyway, dozens of fire class words somehow worked their way into the scripts, meaning that there's no way we could rescue our original conception. We had to go with what we did. And suffer.

-David J. Peterson 01:15, 17 March 2020 (PDT)