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{{lexeme|Méníshè}} | {{lexeme|Méníshè}} | ||
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====Pronunciation==== | ====Pronunciation==== | ||
{{IPA|/dʒi˩-/|lang=meni}} | {{IPA|/dʒi˩-/|/dʒ-/|lang=meni}} | ||
====Prefix==== | ====Prefix==== | ||
{{head|meni|prefix|fire class}} | {{head|meni|prefix|fire class||may surface as '''j-''' before vowels}} | ||
# | # {{n-g|Co-occurs most frequently with [[:Category:Méníshè fire-class nouns|fire class nouns]].}} | ||
=====Derived Terms===== | |||
{{prefixsee|meni}} | |||
====Pronoun==== | |||
{{head|meni|pronoun form|third person dependent, fire class||may surface as '''j-''' before vowels}} | |||
# she/her, he/him, it, they/them; third person dependent fire class pronoun. | |||
====Creation and Usage Notes==== | ====Creation and Usage Notes==== | ||
{{djpnotes|quote=We screwed this prefix up something fierce. Originally, there was perfect symmetry between this prefix and the [[:Category:Méníshè water class nouns|water class]] prefix. It would be the coronal (i.e. ''dì-'') before a consonant, and the palatal otherwise—just like it is with the water class. Unfortunately, we kind of forgot about that, and just made it ''jì-'' everywhere. Then we screwed it up even worse, because it was supposed to be the low tone vowel before consonants, and a toneless vowel before other vowels. Instead, we made the vowel-initial prefix '' | {{djpnotes|quote=We screwed this prefix up something fierce. Originally, there was perfect symmetry between this prefix and the [[:Category:Méníshè water-class nouns|water class]] prefix. It would be the coronal (i.e. ''dì-'') before a consonant, and the palatal otherwise—just like it is with the water class. Unfortunately, we kind of forgot about that, and just made it ''jì-'' everywhere. Then we screwed it up even worse, because it was supposed to be the low tone vowel before consonants, and a toneless vowel before other vowels. Instead, we made the vowel-initial prefix ''j-''. That's certainly something a language would do, but it wasn't what we intended. In our defense, we were working with an extraordinarily abbreviated timeline. Anyway, dozens of fire class words somehow worked their way into the scripts, meaning that there's no way we could rescue our original conception. We had to go with what we did. And suffer. | ||
-''[[User:Djp|David J. Peterson]]'' 01:15, 17 March 2020 (PDT)}} | -''[[User:Djp|David J. Peterson]]'' 01:15, 17 March 2020 (PDT)}} | ||
Latest revision as of 14:44, 3 October 2024
Méníshè
Etymology
From Proto-Méníshè *dih.
Pronunciation
Prefix
jì- (fire class, may surface as j- before vowels)
- Co-occurs most frequently with fire class nouns.
Derived Terms
Pronoun
jì- (third person dependent, fire class, may surface as j- before vowels)
- she/her, he/him, it, they/them; third person dependent fire class pronoun.
Creation and Usage Notes
| We screwed this prefix up something fierce. Originally, there was perfect symmetry between this prefix and the water class prefix. It would be the coronal (i.e. dì-) before a consonant, and the palatal otherwise—just like it is with the water class. Unfortunately, we kind of forgot about that, and just made it jì- everywhere. Then we screwed it up even worse, because it was supposed to be the low tone vowel before consonants, and a toneless vowel before other vowels. Instead, we made the vowel-initial prefix j-. That's certainly something a language would do, but it wasn't what we intended. In our defense, we were working with an extraordinarily abbreviated timeline. Anyway, dozens of fire class words somehow worked their way into the scripts, meaning that there's no way we could rescue our original conception. We had to go with what we did. And suffer.
-David J. Peterson 01:15, 17 March 2020 (PDT) |