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An '''invisible proto-language''' is a ad hoc technical term used to refer to a constructed proto-language that is invisible to anyone other than the creator. It's a tool to be used by a conlanger to create another language, but is rarely showcased as a language on its own. This contrasts with a [[visible proto-language]], which is itself a full conlang that is intended for use. For example, the proto-language of [[Astapori Valyrian]] is [[High Valyrian]]. [[High Valyrian]] is a [[visible proto-language]], in that it is also presented as a full conlang. The proto-language of [[High Valyrian]], on the other hand, is [[Old Valyrian]], which is an [[invisible proto-language]]. It's not fleshed out to the same extent, and is not intended to serve as a fully functioning conlang. | An '''invisible proto-language''' is a ad hoc technical term used to refer to a constructed proto-language that is invisible to anyone other than the creator. It's a tool to be used by a conlanger to create another language, but is rarely showcased as a language on its own. This contrasts with a [[visible proto-language]], which is itself a full conlang that is intended for use. For example, the proto-language of [[Astapori Valyrian language|Astapori Valyrian]] is [[High Valyrian language|High Valyrian]]. [[High Valyrian language|High Valyrian]] is a [[visible proto-language]], in that it is also presented as a full conlang. The proto-language of [[High Valyrian language|High Valyrian]], on the other hand, is [[Old Valyrian language|Old Valyrian]], which is an [[invisible proto-language]]. It's not fleshed out to the same extent, and is not intended to serve as a fully functioning conlang. | ||
Given the fact that we still do not know how language emerged for the very first time, an invisible proto-language is likely a necessarily evil in naturalistic conlanging. Much the way one can posit proto-forms for Indo-European languages going all the way back to Proto-Indo-European but no further, a conlanger must state that at a certain point one can delve no further into the history of their conlang. | Given the fact that we still do not know how language emerged for the very first time, an invisible proto-language is likely a necessarily evil in naturalistic conlanging. Much the way one can posit proto-forms for Indo-European languages going all the way back to Proto-Indo-European but no further, a conlanger must state that at a certain point one can delve no further into the history of their conlang. | ||
As a general note, for this wiki, only a priori languages will be included in this list. A language like [[Lishepus]], whose proto-language is essentially a mix of different natural language roots with Proto-Semitic grammar, will not be listed here. | As a general note, for this wiki, only a priori languages will be included in this list. A language like [[Lishepus language|Lishepus]], whose proto-language is essentially a mix of different natural language roots with Proto-Semitic grammar, will not be listed here. | ||
==List of Invisible Proto-Languages== | ==List of Invisible Proto-Languages== | ||
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* [[Old Valyrian language|Old Valyrian]] | * [[Old Valyrian language|Old Valyrian]] | ||
* [[Proto-Castithan language|Proto-Castithan]] | * [[Proto-Castithan language|Proto-Castithan]] | ||
* [[Proto-Munja'kin language|Proto-Munja'kin]] | |||
* [[Proto-Plains language|Proto-Plains]] | * [[Proto-Plains language|Proto-Plains]] | ||
* [[Proto-Veda language|Proto-Veda]] | |||
* [[Sungdin language|Sungdin]] | |||
==List of Languages with Invisible Proto-Languages== | ==List of Languages with Invisible Proto-Languages== | ||
* [[Bodzvokhan]] | * [[Bodzvokhan language|Bodzvokhan]] | ||
* [[Dothraki]] | * [[Dothraki language|Dothraki]] | ||
* [[High Valyrian]] | * [[Fjerdan language|Fjerdan]] | ||
* [[Indojisnen]] | * [[High Valyrian language|High Valyrian]] | ||
* [[Irathient]] | * [[Indojisnen language|Indojisnen]] | ||
* [[Kinuk'aaz]] | * [[Irathient language|Irathient]] | ||
* [[Munja'kin]] | * [[Kinuk'aaz language|Kinuk'aaz]] | ||
* [[Noalath]] | * [[Munja'kin language|Munja'kin]] | ||
* [[Old Castithan]] | * [[Noalath language|Noalath]] | ||
* [[Övüsi]] | * [[Old Castithan language|Old Castithan]] | ||
* [[Shiväisith]] | * [[Övüsi language|Övüsi]] | ||
* [[Sondiv]] | * [[Ravkan language|Ravkan]] | ||
* [[Veda]] | * [[Shiväisith language|Shiväisith]] | ||
* [[Yanga Kayang]] | * [[Sondiv language|Sondiv]] | ||
* [[Veda language|Veda]] | |||
* [[Yanga Kayang language|Yanga Kayang]] |
Revision as of 02:44, 19 January 2020
An invisible proto-language is a ad hoc technical term used to refer to a constructed proto-language that is invisible to anyone other than the creator. It's a tool to be used by a conlanger to create another language, but is rarely showcased as a language on its own. This contrasts with a visible proto-language, which is itself a full conlang that is intended for use. For example, the proto-language of Astapori Valyrian is High Valyrian. High Valyrian is a visible proto-language, in that it is also presented as a full conlang. The proto-language of High Valyrian, on the other hand, is Old Valyrian, which is an invisible proto-language. It's not fleshed out to the same extent, and is not intended to serve as a fully functioning conlang.
Given the fact that we still do not know how language emerged for the very first time, an invisible proto-language is likely a necessarily evil in naturalistic conlanging. Much the way one can posit proto-forms for Indo-European languages going all the way back to Proto-Indo-European but no further, a conlanger must state that at a certain point one can delve no further into the history of their conlang.
As a general note, for this wiki, only a priori languages will be included in this list. A language like Lishepus, whose proto-language is essentially a mix of different natural language roots with Proto-Semitic grammar, will not be listed here.